In this episode, I sit down with Cecilia and her co-founder, Mark, the minds behind FAST and Futurity, two entrepreneurs who have spent decades at the intersection of moonshot thinking and real-world execution, from Telefonica Alpha and Google X to the Barcelona Supercomputing Center.
We go deep on why most companies are already too late to adapt, how Futurity built what they call “the Google of innovation”, a large graph model trained on the entire history of human innovation, and why compressing the innovation cycle from years to weeks is no longer a competitive advantage, it’s a survival requirement.
We also explore some genuinely mind-bending territory: autonomous commerce, machine-to-machine economies, digital souls, plants with legal standing, and what post-capitalism might actually look like when AI can spin up companies in seconds.
This one is uncut, honest, and exactly the kind of conversation that reminds you why building the future still matters.
Topics covered:
Why corporate innovation labs keep failing
Large graph models vs. large language models
From deep research to deep imagination
The imagination, science, and business horizons
What AI means for money, companies, and humans
